Latin America
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Fri April 12, 2013

Venezuelan Humorist Engages Kidnappers In Election Dialogue

Originally published on Fri April 12, 2013 8:18 am

Earlier this week in Caracas, we were about to go to an interview when it had to be rescheduled. The man we were going to speak with was unavoidably detained — kidnapped, to be precise.

It took awhile after that for Laureano Marquez to free up his schedule and meet us in a coffee shop.

"I'm so sorry," he said when he finally arrived, as if it was his fault for being thrown into a car and driven off to the far reaches of town.

We'd been planning to talk with Marquez about Venezuela's presidential election this weekend, an election that opens a door on a changing Latin America. As it turned out, our talk with Marquez opened that door wider. It was an example of what it means to be a citizen in a dangerous place.

Marquez's open and expressive face is famous in Caracas. He's a writer and political satirist, and when we walked out on the street, a young man and woman stopped him, handed me their camera, and asked me to take their photograph. Of course Marquez agreed to pose.

"Suerte," he told them. Good luck, and he gave the woman a kiss on the cheek.

As we walked, Marquez held up his new national identity card, which he'd spent much of the past two days trying to obtain — after the kidnappers took his old one. He needs it to vote on Sunday, which he's determined to do.

"That's my identity and my nationality," he said. He looks grim in the photo; he says people being photographed for the card are instructed not to smile.

Joking Around, Even In Serious Times

It was amusing to see him this way, because Marquez makes other people smile a lot. Working from his Caracas office, where we continued our discussion, he writes political satire in newspapers and for the stage. He taught us a common Venezuelan expression. "Bochinche," he said. "Bochinche, bochinche."

Bochinche is a ruckus, and in Venezuela it suggests joking around, joy, even in serious times.

Marquez has continued writing even after the government fined him for his newspaper columns and blocked him from performing in a state-owned hotel.

He has taken a position against that government in the presidential election. He appeared on a televised program in support of Henrique Capriles, the opposition candidate, who is trying to unseat the late President Hugo Chavez's chosen successor.

The satirist says he has always opposed the government in power.

"Yesterday, I told Capriles, 'Next Sunday you will be my enemy,' " he said. "Humorists have to show the contradiction of the society. The mission of humor is to show the people that things can be better."

In that television appearance, Marquez walked on stage wearing 19th-century clothes and a powdered wig. He was playing a leading figure from Venezuela's fight for independence. Another actor appeared on stage asking Marquez about the race and class of different figures from history, including the opposition candidate Capriles.

"Better just call him Venezuelan," replied Marquez with perfect timing. The audience roared.

Nobody missed the implied call for unity. After 14 years under President Chavez, this oil-rich republic is divided by race and class. The country is facing rapid inflation, not to mention an explosion of kidnappings and homicides.

A Political Dialogue, With Kidnappers

Marquez knows his country's troubles well. A few days after his TV appearance, he was near his home when two armed men confronted him. They grabbed him as well as his fiancee.

The kidnappers shoved the pair onto the floor of a car, "and they ran all over the city saying to us that we have to pay." Eventually they released the fiancee and sent her off to find money to gain freedom for Marquez.

While waiting for money, the men drove Marquez to a remote spot and made him lie face down — but even that didn't stop him from a little bochinche.

"I talked with them, about the job they do," he said. "I made jokes because they were very stressed, and if I can tell you a joke, you can maybe lower stress."

"It's good that you were there to help them," I noted.

"Yes. It's good for them and for me," he answered.

Marquez said the kidnappers started talking about how hard it was to make a living in Venezuela, where even well-educated people can be underpaid.

A country that does not pay its professors well, one of the kidnappers asked, how can that country progress?

Soon the kidnappers were talking with Marquez about this weekend's emotional and polarizing election.

"Between them there were different opinions," Marquez said. One of them is for [Nicolas] Maduro, Chavez's chosen successor. The other was for Capriles.

"Both of them had guns, and I said, 'Wow, what happened?' Each never killed the other," he said. "If they can do that, all society can do the same."

Marquez says his kidnappers set aside their differences to follow their true north: a life of crime.

He urges citizens to set aside differences to follow his true north: a better society.

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Transcript

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And I'm Steve Inskeep in Caracas, Venezuela.

We were about to go to an interview here this week when it had to be rescheduled. The man we were about to interview was unavoidably detained. Actually, kidnapped. It took a while after that for Laureano Marquez to free up his schedule and meet us in a Caracas coffee shop.

LAUREANO MARQUEZ: Hello.

INSKEEP: Hello.

MARQUEZ: How are you?

INSKEEP: OK. (Spanish spoken)

MARQUEZ: Nice to meet you.

INSKEEP: Nice to meet you as well,

MARQUEZ: I'm so sorry because these are very difficult days for me.

INSKEEP: Entiendo. No problem.

Laureano Marquez wore a checked linen shirt and black-framed glasses. He had an open and expressive face. It's a famous face in Caracas. He's a writer and political satirist - and when we walked out on the street, a young man and woman stopped him, handed me their camera, and asked me to take their photograph.

MARQUEZ: (Spanish spoken)

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: (Spanish spoken)

MARQUEZ: (Spanish spoken)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Gracias.

INSKEEP: Good luck, he told them, and gave the woman a kiss on the cheek. And we crossed a sunny street as we talked. We were reporting on this weekend's presidential election - a campaign to replace the late Hugo Chavez, a campaign in which Laureano Marquez really wants to cast a ballot. He held up his new national identity card, which he had spent much of the last two days racing to have replaced.

And it's a (unintelligible).

MARQUEZ: Yes.

INSKEEP: So you had to have it replaced. You lost this in the kidnapping.

MARQUEZ: Yes.

INSKEEP: Oh my goodness. So you've been running around...

MARQUEZ: I can vote.

INSKEEP: Now that you have the card again...

MARQUEZ: Yes. That's my identity and my nationality.

INSKEEP: When we came to Venezuela, we knew this election would open a door on a changing Latin America. Our talk with Marquez opened the door wider, to the question of what it means to be a citizen in a dangerous place.

(SOUNDBITE OF ELEVATOR DOORS OPENING)

INSKEEP: Laureano Marquez led us into a building elevator and up to his office. Here he writes political satire in newspapers and for the stage. He loves to use a common Venezuelan word.

MARQUEZ: Bochinche. Bochinche. Bochinche.

INSKEEP: Bochinche is a ruckus - and in Venezuela it suggests joking around, joy, even in serious times.

Marquez has continued writing even after the government fined him for his newspaper columns and blocked him from performing in a state-owned hotel. He's taken a position against that government in the presidential election. He appeared on a televised program in support of Henrique Capriles, the opposition candidate who's trying to unseat Hugo Chavez's chosen successor. The satirist says he's always opposed the government in power.

You were opposed to the governments before Chavez.

MARQUEZ: Yes. And I, yesterday I told to Capriles. Next Sunday you will be my enemy.

(LAUGHTER)

INSKEEP: Because you're a citizen.

MARQUEZ: Yes. And the humorists have to show the contradiction of the society. The mission of the humor have to show the people that things can be better.

INSKEEP: Now in that television appearance, Marquez walked onstage wearing 19th century clothes and a powdered wig. He was playing a leading figure from Venezuela's fight for independence. Another actor appeared onstage, asking Marquez about the race and class of different figures from history - including this year's opposition presidential candidate, Capriles.

MARQUEZ: (Spanish spoken)

(APPLAUSE)

INSKEEP: Better just call him Venezuelan, Marquez said. Nobody in the audience missed the implied call for unity. After 14 years under President Chavez, this oil-rich republic is divided by race and class. The country faces rapid inflation, not to mention an explosion of kidnappings and homicides. A few days after his TV appearance, Marquez was near his home when two armed men confronted him. They grabbed him and his fiance.

They put you under the seat of the car.

MARQUEZ: Yeah, and they run all the city, saying to us that we have to pay, that I can die. Then they - (Spanish spoken)...

INSKEEP: They released your fiance.

MARQUEZ: To find money to rescue me.

INSKEEP: They said go get money...

MARQUEZ: Yeah.

INSKEEP: ...bring it back.

MARQUEZ: Yes.

INSKEEP: While waiting for money, the kidnappers drove Laureano Marquez to a remote spot and made him lay face down, but did not stop him from a little bochinche.

MARQUEZ: I talk with them about the job they do.

INSKEEP: Their job?

MARQUEZ: Yeah. I make jokes to - because they was very stressed.

INSKEEP: (Spanish spoken). They were nervous.

MARQUEZ: Yes. And then I can tell you a joke, you can laugh and maybe lower stress.

INSKEEP: It's good you were there to help them.

MARQUEZ: Yes, it's good for them and for me.

INSKEEP: The kidnappers started talking about how hard it was to make a living in Venezuela, where even well-educated people can be underpaid.

MARQUEZ: (Spanish spoken)

INSKEEP: A country that does not pay its professors well, how can that country progress?

MARQUEZ: (Spanish spoken)

INSKEEP: This is what the kidnappers said.

MARQUEZ: Yes. That make me...

INSKEEP: They were social critics.

MARQUEZ: Yes.

INSKEEP: Soon the kidnappers were talking with Marquez about this weekend's emotional and polarized election.

MARQUEZ: Between them was different political opinions.

INSKEEP: The kidnappers had different opinions about the election.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Because one of them is from Maduro...

INSKEEP: For the Chavez candidate.

MARQUEZ: Yes. And other one for Capriles.

INSKEEP: The opposition candidate.

MARQUEZ: And both of them have guns. And I said, wow, what happened? But never kill the other. That's what I say. If they can do that, we, all the society, can make the same.

(LAUGHTER)

INSKEEP: Laureano Marquez of Caracas, Venezuela says his kidnappers set aside their differences to follow their true north - a life of crime. He urges citizens to set aside their differences to follow his true north - a better society. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.